ASUCI Senate Minutes
Thursday, October 06, 2016

 ASUCI Senate Minutes

Thursday, October 6th, 2016


  • Called to Order by Hong  at 5:31
  • Attendance
    • Senator Chavez arrives late at 6:08. Senator Abdelrahman arrives late at 6:28. Senator Vuligonda arrives late at 6:30.
    • Senator Shahbaz leaves early at 6:29
  • Approval of Minutes
  • Approval of Agenda
    • Motion:Trinh / Second:Orozco
  • Public Comment
  • Executive Officer Reports
    • President (Tracy La): Still need to make several committee appointments. Available for senators who are interested in online education as well as environmental concerns. Someone is also needed to proxy for the campus climate issues. COP will start convening with president Napolitano. Still interviewing for Judicial Board, will hold the interviews next Tuesday.
    • Internal VP (Rafael Carazco): Met with the Hill Bookstore to discuss putting together an advisory committee for the book store to discuss the guidelines. If any want to be involved, please let us know. Planning on having events and speakers during national homelessness and hunger awareness week
    • Academic Affairs VP(Tianna Nand): Academic Senate will be pushing for voting power this year. They would like the opinions of the senate on several programs.
    • External VP (Taylor Chanes): SoCC registration will be opening tomorrow as well as UCI registration. Volunteer application will be available soon. This weekend a UCSA board meeting will occur and we are taking 8 UCI students to attend. Will be having a few get-out-the-vote programs in coming weeks.
  • Special Committee Reports
  • Old Business
    • Hong: We do not need to commit positions to Rules Committees that are not for board members.
  • New Business
    • CAPS Cultural Competency Conference presentation by Caroline Nguyen

§  Caroline Nguyen: CAPS is a mental health conference held in December for staff only. This year they are looking for student input, as well as certain students to give workshops at the conference. The purpose is to help train clinicians on how to be more mindful in their practices. There is a list of potential topics for potential workshops that senators should look at to give input on what should be covered.

§  Orozco: Is this training supposed to be on how to approach these students about their mental health?

§  Nguyen: Yes

§  La: What are the possible topics for the conference?

§  Nguyen: We do not have anything official set. We are still taking proposals and submissions.

    • Robert’s Rules Training by Brennan Gonering 5:49

§  Gonering: Here to give more in depth look into parliament procedure. Importance of a democratic decision making process, and the power of representation of all different groups on campus. Importance of running meeting effectively and making sure everyone’s voice is heard. Importance of politeness during the meetings.  

§  Baranwal: Motion to extend time by 10 minutes/ Second: Mousa

§  Gonering: importance of making motions correctly as well as the By-Laws.

§  Aldoghmi: Point of information, can you object to someone’s motion?

§  Chanes: Point of interest about undebatable motions.

§  Gonering: There are certain things that are undebatable, ie extending time.

§  Chanes: Does it go into debate on the motion or the actual discussion?

§  Gonering: Top to Bottom. Votes on amendments first, then vote on the main motion.

§  Baranwal: Motion to extend time by 5 minutes/ Second: Orozco

§  Gonering: Importance of unanimous consent, showing up to meeting, and being responsible.

    • Hong: Move into Discussion on the Dismissal of ICS Senator Tej Vuligonda 6:39
    • Hong: Here is the background for this possible dismissal of Senator Vuligonda: He has had very many absences, because he has only attended 11 out of 38 Senate meetings while holding his position; this is deeply disturbing. Tej is busy, but we are all busy. He wanted to be excused from this fall quarter’s Tuesday and Thursdays meetings. I tried to make myself available to discuss this request. This request for excusal from all meetings of the fall quarter was the last straw.
    • Vuligonda: I was in class all of the meetings I missed, here is the proof (he distributes his Triple E schedule to all the senators).
    • Mousa: Point of Information about having class during senate meetings?
    • La (ASUCI President): Although it is technically okay to have class at this time, you should be free for the meetings because that is the responsibility of the senator.
    • Hong: Student first. Student leader second. However, what if a senator misses all senate meetings?
    • Noureldine: Point of Information about how this schedule (holding Vuligonda’s Triple E schedule) conflicts with senate meetings?
    • Hassane: Other senators are missing right now. Why are they not being scrutinized?
    • Hong: They are –I monitor all of your schedules, but you are all adults. I trust that when you tell me you have class, that you are being honest. I am questioning why Tej is lacking in this area. We are responsible for our constituents. This is a real senate, this is our duty to make sure UCI is spending judicially, ethically, and fairly. I have had various meetings with Stephanie regarding the excusal for senators, but I choose not to report.  
    • Senator Aldoghmi yields his speaking time to Hong.
    • Hong: I want to believe in you guys. Tej has a case that is unique because he has needed to be excused for his entire spring quarter and most of his winter quarter. I cannot accept a request for excusal this quarter. I understand he is busy outside of his control –I am asking for his resignation.
    • Orozco: Are all of Vuligonda’s Tuesday and Thursday classes necessary for graduation?
    • Vuligonda: Yes, I am double majoring and do not have enough money to stay a fifth year. I do not want to put myself in financial hardship.
    • Mousa: Why are we picking on Tej? He has two majors.
    • La: How do you plan on representing constituents if you are never here?
    • Vuligonda: I have been attending all of the ICS meetings that I can. I have met with the dean and discussed ways to help ICS. I have a relationship with the ICS School and council. These senate meetings just do not work for me. Why are we singling me out when other senators are missing as well? Let everyone else sit on senate that isn’t here?
    • Hassane: What is the dismissal process?
    • Hong: If we dismiss Vuligonda, the seat will be vacant, and there will have to be an appointment process, in which someone would serve in his place for seven to eight weeks. Senator Chavez has class from five to six, but still came for this last hour. Shahbaz came for as long as he could. I could not get into contact with Tej –it was impossible –I know that Tej has done good work, but it cannot be proved because he has written no legislation.
    • Lu: What are your contributions as senator?
    • I have many connections with in the ICS community. I helped to improve the anteater express app and update it for the IPhone. I helped to network that process.
    • Natoolo: My concern is that we are all students and that one’s last year and graduation is so vital. Is there a “plan b” before dismissal, since Senator Vuligonda cannot be here, is there another way he can attend to all his business and the senate?
    • Hong: Tej never responded to me. I want you all to know that I am here to listen and take you all seriously, until the time that I cannot. This is the first and only time that he has demonstrated his involvement.
    • Tianna: What else can you offer senate? (directed to Senator Vuligonda)
    • Tej: I can offer extra office hours and more meeting with my constituents. I can help with the ICS banquet, if necessary I will skip class, and take a fifth year even if it puts me into a financial hardship.
    • La: As ASUCI President I send most of my time in meetings from nine in the morning until ten at night. I try to balance my time. I consider being a student representative as a privilege. I think it is admirable that you have done some work with your ICS connections, but you have not done your main job as a senator, which is to be here at the senate meetings and to vote. This is unfair to everyone else ere that shows up on time and had to wait. You are being emotionally manipulative. Do not hold your constituents and fellow senators accountable for you having to take a possible fifth year. This has been a whole year of this.

·       Hong: You are mistaken if you think I want you to fail or stop being a good student. I do this job because I believe in the goals we have as a senate. I believe in UCI. I gave Senator Vuligonda many chances. I cannot do this anymore. I do not want to do this. I would much rather be giving out awards to my senators, not impeaching them. I want the senators to respect their positions. I respect the work that you have done, but it is not with the power of a senator. I need senators to come to meeting, to have quorum. I do not want to be known as the apathetic UCI Senate. We all have challenges that we have overcome, but as an elected leader you have to do more.

·       Mousa: Why is this discipline level not going to everyone? Only to Tej?

·       Hong: Elise and Josh are first quarter senators. I am very disappointed in them. They still have time though, 2 quarters. Tej does not have any time left. In the past legislative council was full of corruption. Alvin tried to change things. I want to improve this organization. This is the first this is coming up because I am trying to change and improve things now.

·       Ono: I have been here these past quarters, so I will give my perspective as a senator who has already been here. I do not believe that Tej will skip class. I am not sympathetic. You could easily quit this quarter. Everything you have done and want to do you can easily do as an ICS student, not on senate. This is the first time I am hearing about any of your accomplishments.

    • Aldoghmi: From what I have heard, everyone has some right in what they are saying. What makes the most sense to me is that it is unfair to us (the senators) and to the constituents. I recognize all sides. My opinion is subject to change, but I think that it makes sense if we decide to dismiss Tej. It seems the most logical because all the issues with quorum last year.
  • Senate Intern Program Report 6:15
    • Introduction of new senate intern. 
  • Committees
  • Trinh: Motion to go into committee breakout for 15 minutes/ Second: Orozco 6:16
  • Hong: Please write legislation about who is in your committees.
  • Aldoghmi is moved from Advocacy to Rules Committee.
    • Rules
      • Orozco: Currently working on amending the By-Laws so that a senator would not get
    • Finance
      • None
    • Public Information
      • Ono: We will be taking a poll for new apparel ideas. Ideas so far: Shirts, hoodie, windbreaker, sweatshirt, and polos.
    • Advocacy
      • Mousa: We are interested in working with MSU to get them a permanent space on campus to store their stuff because they currently do not have a safe place for it. We will also be contacting other groups with in the cross cultural center about similar issues.
  • Immediate Business
  • School Breakouts
  • Final Business
  • Announcements
  • Next Meeting: Tuesday, October 11th, 2016
  • Hong: Motion to Adjourn meeting at 7:11
    • Second: Hassane