ASUCI Senate Minutes
Tuesday, February 28, 2017

 ASUCI Senate Minutes

Tuesday, February 28th, 2017


  • Called to Order by Natoolo at 5:13
  • Attendance
  • Approval of Minutes
    • Motion: Mousa /Second: Hernandez
  • Approval of Agenda
  • Orozco: I move to postpone R52-47 indefinitely because this legislation that I wrote is incorrect and there are many constitutional issues/ Sec: Noureldine and it passes by a 2/3rd vote.
    • Motion:Yakub /Second: Trinh
  • Public Comment
    • Natoolo: I had an accident that shook my humanity to the core. Because of the rain my car failed to stop and while I was making a turn and I saw myself drive into the traffic light. My car hit the pavement and my entire car shattered into pieces. Made me realize how life is so fragile. And you can lose it in the spare of a moment. It made me realize to be fierce and to do the thing to change this campus and to help our fellow students. There are students who are facing food insecurity, homelessness, girls facing sexual violence. This accident made me realize that my life would have been gone yesterday, but god kept me. And I wanted to share from my heart, that we have this time to make a tangible difference.
  • Executive Officer Reports
  • Special Committee Reports
  • Old Business
    • 5B: R52-48: Rules and Oversight Committee Responsibilities  

§  Mousa: Motion to bring R52-48 to the floor/ Second: Orozco

§  Legislation read by Yakub.

§  Yakub: Move to make an amendment to change the therefore clause to l, m, instead of k, l, m.

§  Lim: Motion to bring R52-48 into discussion for 10 minutes/ Second: Hernandez.

§  Lim: For N, what do you mean by this? What does it entail?

§  Yakub: So basically much of the regulations we do internally goes toward the by-laws to make sure it is according to the by-laws.

§  Bender: How is the president of the Senate included in this matter?

§  Orozco: It’s internally within the committee.

§  Yakub: That was already in the by-laws and I’m just putting it into ensure its working accordingly.

§  Bender: Thank you for the clarification.

§  Orozco: Move to commit R52-48 to the rules committee/ Second: Hernandez

    • 5C: New and Vacant Senate Application

§  Natoolo: We are looking for new senators for the vacant seats. School of Humanities, Claire Trevor School, and an Education senator. Help us spread the word, it is up on the website.

§  Lim: Did anyone contact the school departments and ask to send an email to all the students in that department?

§  Orozco: There was a mass one sent out already.

§  Natoolo: Thank you. We received applications and it is fair for me to share this, I have been informed that the senate cannot be affiliated with any political party. I needed to bring this forth and this is a conversation that we can have. With the constitution at hand, I do not think we can have both parties in this room.

§  Orozco: Basically, in fall quarter we added special interest ex officio senators. And special interest are not political groups and student government in the UC system are not allowed to be political group. These special interest groups are separate, for example a disability service seat or a cross cultural center seat. It needs to be non-partisan for these ex officio seats. Outlined in the rules that all UCOP adheres to.

§  Xiao: Point of interest, what is considered and affiliation? Are senators not allowed to participate or hold ranked positions in political group organizations?

§  Orozco: So the seats cannot be made to be a democrat seat or a republican seat because we would have to open it up to every partisan group and we don’t have any space for that. We need a neutral space.

  • New Business
    • 6A: Discussion from Suzanne Helbig Director of Career Center

§  Suzanne Helbig with Tonie Zhu and Neda Moayedi

§  Helbig: We want to give you a brief overview of the services we provide at the career center. We want to answer questions as well. We help you all explore. We help you all connect. By bringing together students and employers by fairs or internships. We are here to help all students succeed. For all schools, business, engineering, humanities, arts, etc. We are also here to help with graduate education opportunities. That is a brief overview around career counseling and access to internship opportunities. We also offer employment services. I want to make a point about the employer community, we are really proud of all the employers who engaged with us and all of the opportunities we offered.

§  Neda: Thank you for having us here tonight. I am the graduate career counselor. I help them explore academic and non-academic jobs. I am one of 9 counselors. The other 8 are for undergrad. Each liaison serves a separate department. Like one for social sciences and one for engineering as examples. Ultimately we are here to help you explore in a career trajectory. Reach your career goals. We have drop-ins and appointments. We have a plethora of workshops in terms of interviewing and networking. So when you are done with your education here you are a superstar. It is a privilege for me to be on this campus as an alum.

§  Tonie: I am the employer engagement specialist. I am a UCI alum as well. Economies major, started my career on Wall Street and wanted something more fulfilling so I came back here. I engage employers and bring them onto campus for different career fairs. I have the job shadow program, a one day experience in gaining insight in how to work outside of school. We have career discovery series. 15 series panel. We try to bring out representatives from the professional community to speak with students and give them insights in how to develop their careers.

§  Orozco: How many scheduled appointments are there on a daily basis?

§  Helbig: I don’t have it broken down on a daily basis. Last year we had over 5,000 students take advantage of our advising.

§  Lim: Do you know which majors come to the career center more and which ones don’t come as often?

§  Helbig: We haven’t broken down our statistics in that way. But anecdotally, folks in major more aligned with professions tend to take advantage more. Business and tech related students come in more often. We would like that to change. So we would want to get a counselor dedicated to serving humanities and arts.

§  Neda: I work across all disciplines, but I have been working with our humanities department to try and normalize it. Drop-ins are a great way to get the exposure. We welcome all disciplines.

§  Noureldine: I was wondering if you have a letter of reccomendation holding service?

§  Helbig: No we don’t. That used to be a very popular service. Especially with medical schools. When every single med school required a separate letter. And one letter could be distributed out. This took away a need. We refer students to interfolio.

§  Pourmand: Do you have an advisor specific to nursing majors?

§  Neda: Not personally to nursing. But to bio and health sciences. But I’m not sure and I can look into that.

§  Tonie: Can definitely get in touch with you. Had someone looking for nursing students. Find me on the website.

§  Yakub: What’s interfolio? And it appears we have the second to last in terms of size of the career centers in UC system, are we taking initiatives to expand?

§  Helbig: Just for the record, we are the smallest. Out of the 9 comprehensive campuses. Smallest facility and least favorable staff count to enrollment size. What brought us here tonight is that there is referendum up for discussion. One potential optimistic development, if we could have that that would allow us more space. We are working to get funding to add more positions. We have more and more interest for different programs on campus. We might expand services through salary sharing models. We do our best with what we have to spread out the services to engage with campus and employer partners to go beyond our 17 member staff. Interfolio is an online management system, where you can have your letter sent and they can send them out.

§  Shahbaz: Regarding ICS, is Mark just for ICS students?

§  Neda: He has a focus on ICS and engineering.

§  Orozco: Just following with Yakub about the referendum and the career center is hiring more staff, what type of staff and what services would be added? What else do they have on their mind?

§  Helbig: What I think we need right now is an expansion of our counseling staff. Providing services for different student populations. Basically more or less all counselors see all students. At larger career centers, the staff are more organized by schools or industries and are able to offer much more customized benefits to students. We know student are hungry for this service. So that’s the main growth I see. Would also love to add additional internship coordinators. Would love to add staffing to create more ways for you to connect with employers. Counselors do need confidential spaces. Right now our facility does not meet standards for employers. We do not have any conference rooms for team interviews or to debrief. Other career centers have locker rooms for students to change for interviews. Would love to have a bigger venue space to hold various programs at once

§  Lim: For the Business Admin School, they have their own career center? Do you all collaborate with them? Would you want to go to every school department and work with them?

§  Helbig: Most schools, if they have a business school and law school, those schools usually have their own career center. They really put attention on making sure students get good jobs with high salaries. We do collaborate with the business school. They have a lot of advising and training, but they don’t have the employer part. We are heavily influencing their undergrad program. I think what students and employers would prefer is a singular point of contact for career services. All coordinated and on the same page it will be more impactful

§  Hassane: This would mean increasing tuition? If it does not pass due to this (the referendum), have you all looked into other options not a referendum?

§  Helbig: We are certainly looking into other staffing options. We are looking on a brighter spotlight to focus on career services. Yeah if the referendum doesn’t happen, it will just be a really unfortunate situation where UCI students will be at a competitive disadvantage.

§  Mousa: Motion to extend discussion time by 5 minutes/ Second: Hassane

§  Abuzeid: Of those people who apply for jobs through the career center are you informed of how many people are accepted to jobs?

§  Helbig: You want to know about job outcomes. We have attempted to, working with institutional researchers, to have a survey with graduating seniors. They did it at the time of their graduations. So it was only 34%. We would prefer it be done 6 months out because most people don’t know what they are doing. 6 months out 60% of people are employed. 20% go straight to grad school and the rest are doing internships or traveling or don’t need to work or still figuring it out.

§  Abuzeid: How are you informed whether they got it or not?

§  Helbig: It is a survey. So it is up to the students.

§  Abuzeid: So that’s not really representative. I think it would be good to have a link to the employers to say that they hired the UCI grad.

§  Tonie: Every now and then we have a conversation like this. And many employers are secretive about this. But it’s definitely something I can mention and ask how many UCI students they have hired. But sometimes they will not tell us.

§  Natoolo: Thank you so much to all our guests. We appreciate you

§  Orozco: Motion to end discussion/ Second: Lim

  • Senate Intern Program Report
    • No new updates
  • Committees
  • Orozo: I move to go into committee breakouts for 30 minutes/ Second: Hernandez
  • Orozco: Move to extend time by 3 minutes/ Second: Mousa
  • Orozco: Move to extend time by 5 minutes/ Second: Hernandez
  • Orozco: I move to end committee breakouts/ Second: Mousa
    • Rules
      • Orozco: We went through applications for the freshman senators for this year. We have approved 4 individuals to come in for an interview. So we can see who we would like to be appointed to that postion. R52-48 has been amended. And its passes 5-0-1 with the amendment.
    • Finance
      • Lu: B52-05 office supplies, passes 5-0-0. And B52-06 also passes 5-0-0.
    • Public Information
      • Lim: Right now on fb we made a google form for the senators who want business cards. So we can know who is interested and then we can send it out. Please fill out by end of this week.
    • Advocacy
      • Erikat: Noureldine submitted legislation for disability service center. And we are going to be working on another new legislation.
  • Immediate Business

·       Lu: Motion to bring R52-48 into question/ Second: Hernandez

·       R52-48 passes 22-0-0, Yea: Lu, Mousa, Chavez, Baggia, Erikat, Noureldine, Aldoghmi, Lim, Abuzeid, Xiao, Pourmand, Alazani, Trinh, Danesh, Bender, Safady, Hassane, Orozco, Yakub, Hernandez, Hasan, and Zheng.  

·       Orozco: Motion to bring B52-05 into question/ Second: Lu.

·       B52-05 passes 22-0-0, Yea: Lu, Mousa, Chavez, Baggia, Erikat, Noureldine, Aldoghmi, Lim, Abuzeid, Xiao, Pourmand, Alazani, Trinh, Danesh, Bender, Safady, Hassane, Orozco, Yakub, Hernandez, Hasan, and Zheng.

·       Xiao: Motion to bring B52-06 into question/ Second: Orozco

·       B52-06 passes 22-0-0, Yea: Lu, Mousa, Chavez, Baggia, Erikat, Noureldine, Aldoghmi, Lim, Abuzeid, Xiao, Pourmand, Alazani, Trinh, Danesh, Bender, Safady, Hassane, Orozco, Yakub, Hernandez, Hasan, and Zheng.

  • School Breakouts
    • Orozco: motion to suspend by-laws and strike school breakouts/ passes by 2/3rds vote.
  • Final Business
  • Announcements
    • Natoolo: MSU is inviting Standing Rock Chief, Chief Black Fox Pomani. The event starts at 7pm in crescent bay c. He will be talking about the situation there and issues that come up due to the executive order.
  • Next Meeting: Thursday, March 2nd, 2017.
  • Orozco: Motion to Adjourn Meeting at 6:53
    • Second: Trinh