ASUCI Senate Minutes
Tuesday, October 17, 2017

ASUCI Senate Minutes

Date 10/17/17


  • Called to Order by Tin at 5:05pm

  • Attendance

    • Person came in late at

      • Gurneel 5:19 pm

      • Baggia 5:10pm

      • Murad  6:22pm

    • Person left early at

      • Jacky Wan 6:15pm

  • Approval of Minutes

    • Motion: Xiao / Second: Lin

  • Approval of Agenda

    • Motion: Asad / Second: Kaur

  • Public Comment

    • Person (Organization/Department): Comment NONE

  • Executive Officer Reports

    • President: Lydia

      • Wants some of ASUCI voices to be a part and have a say

      • Bringing back the wellness

      • In november we will be bringing back and working on the finances.

    • E-Vice president  

      • Working on transportation

      • Meet every tuesday so can work together

  • Special Committee Reports

    • International Committee: None

    • Parking Committee: None

    • First Generation and Non-Traditional Student Committee: None

    • Transfer Student Committee: None


  • Old Business

    • Motion to suspend item 6A to the floor immediately

      • Motion: Jude

      • Second: Xiao

    • R53-15: Revision Goods vs. Services

      • Motion to spell “supersede” correctly

        • Motion: Lim

        • Second: Jackie

    • R53-16- Revision Borrowed Goods

      • Motion to amend revision to say -- “error”

        • Motion: Lim

        • Second: Jackie

      • PASSES

      • 22-0-0

    • R53-23

      • Motion to call into question by acclimation

        • Motion: Kaur

        • Second: Jackie

    • R53- 24 : Student Services Chief of Staff

      • Motion to change/edit synopsis and add/say “appointment of student services staff”

        • Motion: Lim

        • Second: Kaur


  • New Business

    • Tony Smith--(Associate Dean)

        • Mission: to serve you

        • Appointed non-voting

        • Three populations

          • 1. Working middle class adults

          • 2. Access students (undergraduates who can't get into uci for some reasons)

          • 3. Professors and staff

        • Take working middle class and at end of year write a giant check and this money is used to benefit uci members

          • for fellowships, jobs, and help them complete their degree

        • “DO NOT VOTE TO PROTECT THIS ACTION”

          • If they vote for this, they are diluting your power.

          • This is a risk because you get one person who isn't part of uci family and they are speaking as a senator.

          • There are people from Denmark taking classes here for not too long. “Do you really want them being a senator/in your spot”

        • Questions:

          • How many extensions are there?

            • Not very many. Most of access students who become academically ineligible and they try to come back in. Transfer students are successful in getting in but are not access students. Access students are taking classes in the summer. Many from UC Davis who live in irvine.

          • Nothing that breaks down the different types?

            • 2,000 international students. 30,000 working professionals. Summer session is its own thing now, and that's where 80-90 of access students are. Many students are postbac students.

          • Academy?

            • Talking with the dean to develop. Having an economic drain because so many students come in. Don’t know if it is a shortage of beds or if they have to feed them. But they want to let them in.

            • Economic burden on the university.

      • Experimenting in building a cohort model of classes

        • Networking between students

        • Top competitors: Campus wide honors

        • Leadership will be done by career services

      • Progress management program

        • Get promoted and you are suddenly in charge

        • You are not here to be involved in student government, here to make a change and difference

        • Don't want people to come and demand to stop doing student events.

          • Dean: “I suggest you keep the relationship separate you are representing undergraduates.”

      • Only the people who stay longer should be representative, students online should not be representative. Because students on campus are more passionate.

        • Example: The flag problem- voted to take down the flag

        • 10,000 veterans taking our classes

        • Dean: “Our students(the access and online students) don't have the same interest as you”

        • Had problems where they were saying that they were trying to get in for 4 years and can't get in, so  get student government should do something about this

          • Dean: “You should not embrace in this”

      • Comments:

        • President Lydia: “Go with statement that, this is not a benefit of anyone but about acting CIVIL”

        • Dean: “You will only risk harming yourself and diminishing yourself of speaking/your power”

    • Comments:

      • Kimo

        • “The Dean didn't respect you before nor will they respect you now.”

        • This legislation is against the status quo

        • J-board co-wrote the legislation

          • They oppose status quo

        • Their goal is to maintain what they do under the easy way, by questioning our status quo

        • “We have to stand up for ourselves”

        • Diversity argument

          • Jboard went over this

            • He talk about how this is a problem

            • Read the new legislation that is up: talks about the merits within your organization

        • There is no legal present

        • Argument comes from equal protection acts

        • Policy is about passing something that does something

        • Can anyone able to name something that has actually passed and done something? -No response

        • This isn't perfect but the idea has merits to it

            • 1. To robust the first argument that they aren't gonna want

            • 2. Lining up by thousands

              • Not many people actually involved in student government

          • They treat you badly

          • “Administrations don't actually care”

        • Questions for Kimo:

          • What is your response to Dean about his argument about professor and faculty?

            • If a professor enrolls in class and wants to be in student government. There Is no harm in letting them.

            • There is nothing in new legislation that would consist with that idea.

            • “You guys have all the power”

            • “I don't see that as a harm” to student government

          • Why do you think having a representative on senate is so important?

            • “I am here fighting so clearly disclosure means something”

            • Many people go to events we have, even if that's a small minority population they still go

              • Every person should have a voice and choice no matter how small the population it even says it in the legislation.

          • Motion to extend session by 5 minutes

            • Motion: lim

            • Second: tin

          • Continued….

            • This legislation the new one has any affect on student fees

            • Senator Safady: “Student fees will make the school far more expensive”

            • Kimo: “There is actually a myth that students fees will go up because of this legislation”

          • Motion to extend discussion by 5 minutes

            • Motion: Lim  

            • Second: Tin

          • Continued...

            • Legislation for undergraduates

            • j-board differentiates from the public

              • Extension students cannot impact the legislation because they have no votes anyways

            • Access students are already taking similar classes here

            • There is no ruling on legal impact

          • Motion to add 3 minutes to discussion

            • Motion: Lim

            • Second: Safady

        • Tony Smith-- Dean

          • You have to let DCD pick their own representatives that is their job

          • Dean: “This motion is a mistake”  you vote because it's your right and your choice.

            • Dean: “I don’t support it.”

    • R53-21 (6:10pm)

      • Motion to withdraw R53-21

      • Motion: Lim

      • Second: Jackie


  • Council Intern Program Report

    • Lily

      • 2nd year/ undecided undeclared major

      • Likes the color blue and burgundy

  • Committee time(6:41pm)

    • Ended: (6:52pm)

  • Committees

    • Rules

      •  
    • Finance

      • Come to meeting tomorrow 8am in lobby

      • Interns are invited

    • Public Information

      • Getting closer to finishing up the jacket; have the design and logo

      • Question: can see the design before they get posted

        • You will get to see it on the facebook page

      • How much do they cost?

        • Jackets themselves: $31

        • Might have a very small fee that each person might have to pay after using senate money.

    • Advocacy

      • Trying to follow up with them. They are very slow to reply.

      • Disability center trying to reach out to them as well. They haven’t replied yet.

  • Immediate Business

    • NONE

  • School Breakouts

    • NONE

  • Final Business

    • NONE

  • Announcements

    • NONE

  • Next Meeting: <10/24/17>

  • Motion Adjourn Meeting at <7:02pm>

    • Second: Erikat